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Savage 219 Single Shot Rifles / Re: Hornet barrel tough to open
« Last post by Sentry44 on September 17, 2021, 08:07:54 PM »
Thanks for hosting the venue to talk about it!

Sentry44
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Savage 219 Single Shot Rifles / Re: Hornet barrel tough to open
« Last post by Garnett on September 15, 2021, 09:44:24 PM »
Problems like these are why other than cleaning, I take mine to my friend who is an excellent gunsmith/machinist.  Thanks for sharing all this with us!
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Savage 219 Single Shot Rifles / Re: Hornet barrel tough to open
« Last post by Sentry44 on September 15, 2021, 09:27:07 PM »
Actually Garnett, I think the problem is the style of ejector hook.  When I bought this barrel it was missing the hook, extractor, spring and starter pin.  So I bought all and installed.  But I think that the front of the ejector hook...the standing portion that gets pushed upon by the spring and starter pin, was too broad.  It explains why the replacement spring had to be trimmed to even get it to close in order to drive in the ejector retaining pin.

But shortening the spring still wasnt enough, because the starter pin was still too long after the spring was completely compressed.  So I shaved it.

So now all is good, but Im pretty sure the issue lies with the shape of the ejector hook just having too much meat.

I could probably have achieved the same outcome by removing some of the inner edge of the hook instead.

Sentry44
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Savage 219 Single Shot Rifles / Re: Hornet barrel tough to open
« Last post by Garnett on September 15, 2021, 05:27:59 PM »
Sentry, Thanks for this update!  As I understand what you are saying, the entire problem was caused by the starter pin.  Such a small part to cause so much trouble!  I hope all of this will help someone else.
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Savage 219 Single Shot Rifles / Re: Hornet barrel tough to open
« Last post by Sentry44 on September 15, 2021, 05:10:29 PM »
Ok it's done.  Cleetus's point was well made, and I had givwn the entire guts a good blow out and then lube before I inadvertantly broke the ejector hook.

I agree, given this early mechanism, it's always going to be harder to open when decocked.  This was something more.  I could barely even open the barrel!

So yesterday I got my new parts, replaced the ejector hook (a brand new, perfect fit reproduction from Numrich), and then got to work on the ejector spring.

I have had other barrels which required a small amount of spring trimming, but this one is extreme.  I trimmed one down quite a bit and realized the extractor was still getting stopped out beyond the flush threshold of the breech.

So I ground about 1/16 off of the spring starter pin, grabbed a fresh spring, and trimmed again slowly until it felt like the right tension.

Took her outside and fired, then opened...all good.

Now, I would not have thought that that starter pin was long enough to get fully stopped out between the hook and extractor to not leave enough room for the extractor to seat flush when closed.  But this simply must have been the case.

So...FIXED.

New ejector hook, new [trimmed] ejector spring, and spring starter pin trimmed 1/16.

Sentry44
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Savage 220 Single Shot Hammerless Shotguns / Re: Model 220A 20 gauges
« Last post by Garnett on September 13, 2021, 09:07:22 AM »
That's $150 each plus delivery.  I think a good buy.  Let us know how the look when you get them.
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Savage 220 Single Shot Hammerless Shotguns / Model 220A 20 gauges
« Last post by Cleetus on September 12, 2021, 11:16:20 PM »
Woo hoo! I just won on line auctions on two Savage Model 220A 20 gauges. ~420.00 Canadian or 323 US delivered for both. The look to be in pretty good shape except one has had the buttstock shortened.
I’m thinking even for parts guns this is a pretty good deal. Thoughts Garnett.
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Savage 219 Single Shot Rifles / Re: Hornet barrel tough to open
« Last post by Garnett on September 12, 2021, 11:10:08 PM »
Cleetus,  Thanks for your input.
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Savage 219 Single Shot Rifles / Re: Hornet barrel tough to open
« Last post by Cleetus on September 12, 2021, 11:04:11 PM »
So we do acknowledge that this vintage of Model 219 uses the top lever to cock the striker mechanism firing pin. It is always harder to move the top lever to the right when opening after the gun has been fired. I would be looking for a friction or binding issue in the striker channel. Also remember the striker and top lever are involved with resetting the safety.
Take the butt stock off and give the action a good cleaning with crude cutter or brake cleaner. Then spray in top good quality gun oil of Balistol and then use an air compressor to blow out the excess. Especially focus around the striker mechanism. Test cock it with the stock off before putting it back together. Always remember to tighten the through bolt firmly so that recoil impact doesn’t crack a loose buttstock.
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General Discussion / Re: Ace Hardware Update Gun Screws
« Last post by Garnett on September 12, 2021, 05:33:01 PM »
This weekend I had an occasion to try these screws.  A friend bought a rough Colt 1849 Pocket Model (.31 percussion) and needed some screws.  One fit but had to be shortened and the other had to have the head turned down just a little to fit in the frame hole.  Threads on both were perfect.
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