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Two very different 219/220 actions anyone recognize these? One is somewhat "normal"? the other is????  Garnett can best ask the right questions. 
From Garnett: "Please compare picture 1 and picture two.  Picture one is a Second Model Utica as normally found.  Picture 2 is a First Model Utica, but something is different.  Can you see it?  Picture 3 is the same First Model Utica and picture 4 is the same Second Model Utica.  Again, something is different.  Can you spot the difference?"  You may need to click on the pictures to enlarge them.  The owner and I have been going back and fourth for several days about these two actions.








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Hi! My Name is... / Re: H E double L O
« Last post by Garnett on January 19, 2019, 09:42:52 PM »
Maybe someone here will have an extractor for your .22 Hornet.  As I mentioned on the earlier post, try Ebay.  Please keep us up to date on your progress.  Good luck on your quest.
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Buy, Sell, Wanted, and Trade... / Re: Early model 219/220 parts
« Last post by Garnett on January 19, 2019, 09:40:55 PM »
I recently purchased the "blank" extractor from Numrich.  It seems to me it would be a lot of work to fit it to a barrel.  I do not have one for sale, but suggest you look at Ebay.  They have a very large selection of parts.  Best wishes, Garnett
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Buy, Sell, Wanted, and Trade... / Re: Early model 219/220 parts
« Last post by emccann86 on January 19, 2019, 08:57:56 PM »
whould you happen to have an extractor for a .22 hornet?  i tried numrich but all they've had for the past year was a small cast metal 'blank" but it seems to me to be much too narrow my broken extractor is 7/16" wide and this one it only 3
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Hi! My Name is... / H E double L O
« Last post by emccann86 on January 19, 2019, 08:52:42 PM »
hey there name's eddie not really a collector but i have inherited an old 219 .22 hornet goes back to my great grand-dad trying to get it up to snuff
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Savage 220 Single Shot Hammerless Shotguns / Re: 220A Youth?
« Last post by Cleetus on January 17, 2019, 10:46:23 PM »
So by your measurements does the forcing cone taper start around 2 1/2 inches or 3 inches. If it starts at 2 1/2 inches then a regular diet of 3 inch shells might be detrimental. All the same whether it is a 3 or 2 1/2 chambered gun it is kind of cool to have a factory gun marked with a chamber length they didn't make. Kind of like having a 20 gauge marked 3 1/2 inch chamber.
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Savage 220 Single Shot Hammerless Shotguns / Re: 220A Youth?
« Last post by Garnett on January 14, 2019, 04:06:39 PM »
Ross, thanks for this additional input!  I believe it to be a factory error on the chamber marking.
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Savage 220 Single Shot Hammerless Shotguns / Re: 220A Youth?
« Last post by reb87 on January 14, 2019, 03:31:15 PM »
I checked visually and by running a patch down the bore and find no sign of choke.  Fired  3 inch and 2.5, both functioned properly and ejected.  I find the end of chamber at 2.5 inches tapering to 3.125 then a sharp taper to bore diameter.  I’ll bet it was a miss marking at the factory, forgot the short shell was 2.5 not 2.75.  It does make a good candidate for shortening! I figured it was a factory job for sure. 
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Savage 220 Single Shot Hammerless Shotguns / Re: 220A Youth?
« Last post by Garnett on January 14, 2019, 01:22:00 PM »
Mike,  thanks for this additional information!  I never thought of a factory error for the 2.75 chamber marking.  I was thinking that all .410's I have seen were 3".

Ross, Please try shooting a 3" shell as suggested by Mike, and let us know.  Best wishes, Garnett
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Savage 220 Single Shot Hammerless Shotguns / Re: 220A Youth?
« Last post by Mike Armstrong on January 14, 2019, 11:06:32 AM »
That chamber length marking sure looks like it was done at the factory!  My bet is that you have a gun that was done late on Friday afternoon or early on Monday morning (by which I mean that it was a factory error--the wrong stamp was used, one from a larger guage gun.).  Factory errors aren't all that uncommon.  Another possibility is that this was one of the leftover parts that Numrich's rehabilitated from Savage plant closures sites and that Numrich's stamped the barrel with the wrong stamp.

Do 3" shells fit the chamber and eject properly?
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