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Savage 220 Single Shot Hammerless Shotguns / Re: Receivers
« Last post by Sentry44 on December 27, 2020, 08:26:14 AM »
I own the majority of barrels, and you only need the large channel forearm for the 12 and 16 gauge.  The lower profile forearm works for all calibers, and smaller gauge shotgun barrels.

I can only speak for Utica parts, but safe bet it's the same in the Chicopee era.

Chris
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Savage 220 Single Shot Hammerless Shotguns / Re: 28 gauge first production
« Last post by Sentry44 on December 22, 2020, 08:05:10 PM »
Garnett,

I believe Cleetus is correct.  I forget which catalog I saw it in but Stevens offered the 94 with a 28 ga in that time frame as well, and they were getting integrated by then.  But just in case one still doesn't believe...

...I present..."the unicorn."  NOT my gun, and I'm not bidding.  I need to thin my heard, not add to it.  But I'm happy to have finally seen one!

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/887182036

Picture #11 clearly shows Utica, NY.
Picturre #13 clearly shows 28 gauge.






Merry Christmas!

- Chris
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Savage 219 Single Shot Rifles / Re: "+" Symbol
« Last post by Garnett on December 15, 2020, 04:44:12 PM »
Thanks for this info!
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Savage 219 Single Shot Rifles / Re: "+" Symbol
« Last post by Cleetus on December 15, 2020, 04:08:23 PM »
Garnett, my Utica gun with stamped duck scene on the bottom has the + symbol on the right hand side as you describe. No US ordinance mark though.
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Savage 220 Single Shot Hammerless Shotguns / Re: 28 gauge first production
« Last post by Cleetus on December 15, 2020, 03:51:53 PM »
Garnett see page 114 of your newer book. 28 gauge advertised in 1939. Also the photos I sent you of my Utica 28 and the box tag and wrapping paper. That being said people should not look for Utica 28 gauges. Wink wink wink.
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Savage 219 Single Shot Rifles / Re: "+" Symbol
« Last post by Garnett on December 08, 2020, 12:17:42 PM »
I was reviewing my book a few minutes ago, and found a "+" symbol on a pre-war Second Model Utica.  The bottom of the frame is etched with a game scene, and the left side of the frame is marked "U.S." with the Ordnance Bomb.  A reader had earlier contacted about this mark.
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Savage 220 Single Shot Hammerless Shotguns / Re: Receivers
« Last post by Garnett on December 07, 2020, 08:10:03 AM »
Forearms have different size barrel channels and attachment mechanisms and may have to be fitted to a particular barrel.  There are two different style of forearm attachment studs on the barrels I have examined.  They are pictured on page 101 of my latest book.  I am away from home and cannot post pictures of them.
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Savage 220 Single Shot Hammerless Shotguns / Re: Receivers
« Last post by OhioMike on December 06, 2020, 10:49:18 PM »
Thank you ( I think ;)). Now I can start looking for barrels/forearms
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Savage 219 Single Shot Rifles / Re: "+" Symbol
« Last post by Garnett on December 06, 2020, 04:09:19 PM »
This "+" mark has been found on the left upper side of the receiver on some "Second Model" Utica guns.  It is near where the barrel breech fits to the frame.  I am away from home and cannot post a picture.  It is on page 78 of my newest book.  A reader contacted me after finding this mark on a newly purchased toy of his.  He is interested as to what it may mean.  As I mentioned earlier, I am away from home, but I think I only have one gun with this mark. 

Years ago when Mr. Callahan, a retired Savage employee, was providing historical information on these guns, I asked him if he would decode all the various symbols found on them, but he declined to do so.  We may never know.
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Savage 219 Single Shot Rifles / Re: "+" Symbol
« Last post by Sentry44 on December 06, 2020, 01:04:44 PM »
Has a "+" symbol...where?
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