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General Discussion / Re: Book with Savage 340 info?
« Last post by TraderVic on October 07, 2023, 09:33:56 AM »
I bump into Savage 340 bolt action 30-30's here in Wisconsin every so often. A good friend hunts whitetails with one every year. Nice little woods rifle, although magazines are scarce if one is lost.
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Hi! My Name is... / Re: New to posting on the Forum
« Last post by Garnett on October 04, 2023, 03:01:23 PM »
Thanks for the pictures.  The Utica 219 with the steel trigger guard could be prewar.  My local gun smith said the early 219/220 actions were "Rust" blued.  When these actions are reblued in a hot bluing solution, they turn red/purple, depending on how long they are in the solution.  Savage was constantly make internal changes to the actions.  The First and Second Model Utica's and the 219/220A's were striker fired. and the action cocked when the top lever was pushed to the right to open the action.  When the 219/220B's were introduced, the striker was replaced with a normal internal hammer.  These barrels have a stud on the side of the barrel lug that engages a "cocking stud" inside the lower right of the frame that cocks the hammer as the barrel is opened.  Changes continued through out production of the B, C, and D models. Starting with the "B"models, all actions were color case hardened, with very few exceptions. 

Looking at your pictures and the "979" number on the 219 barrel, frame, and forearm, leads me to believe your gun was possibly a "Utility" gun originally with a shotgun barrel and matching forearm.  By this, I mean it had both a rifle and a shotgun barrel with 2 forearms.  These were produced in limited numbers.

I hope this information helps some. 
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Hi! My Name is... / New to posting on the Forum
« Last post by RWCochran on October 04, 2023, 01:29:06 PM »
I have long had a 219 in 30-30 that, the story goes, was purchased used by my grandfather in the early 1940’s to take his older son hunting. The older son carried a lever action, not cartoon what make/model. Grandpa died in 1949 and the model 219 was left to accumulate rust in the corner of the garage. My father (second son) found it there in the mid/late 1950’s and decided to clean it up and eventually had it reblued. The receiver came out a deep plum color as a result of the reblueing and I have gown to appreciate it.

My older brother, younger sister and I all started our deer hunting adventures with this old gun. Great for beginners because of the single shot aspect. As I was the fortunate one to inherit it, my sons likewise both started deer hunting with it. At one point in the 1990’s before I inherited it the firing pin or sear broke. A local gunsmith told me it wasn’t worth fixing and said I should just display it. Not good enough for me! I insisted he repair it ( especially since it wasn’t even mine at that point) and he said he had to make the park for it as he could not locate the correct one anywhere. Cost near $100 for the repair which I know was more than it’s market value. But sentimental value is higher.

My grandson is now ready to embark on his hunting experiences and I came across a Model 220A 20 gauge shotgun at an auction. I couldn’t pass up the opportunity to have a matching set. The 219 I suspect is an early model from Utica with a stamped steel trigger guard and the 220A is a later model from Chicopee Falls with an alloy trigger guard.

The internal mechanisms (trigger, sears, etc) look different as well, I suspect more based on dates of manufacture then rifle vs. shotgun. Picture are 219 first and 220A second (correction…pictures appear to have uploaded randomly)

I hope to get a copy of your book and learn more about these two firearms, but for now Amazon is sold out.































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Hi! My Name is... / Re: Greetings..
« Last post by TraderVic on October 03, 2023, 10:02:35 PM »
Hello Garnett,
I don't know how to do pics, otherwise I certainly would.
Regards, Vic
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Hi! My Name is... / Re: Greetings..
« Last post by Garnett on October 03, 2023, 01:59:23 PM »
Trader Vic, Welcome to this forum!  Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.  If you have time, how about a picture of your Savage 220? 
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Hi! My Name is... / Greetings..
« Last post by TraderVic on October 03, 2023, 09:53:31 AM »
I stumbled into this forum yesterday. I have a Savage Model 220, 410 bore that has been in my family 60+ years, starting with my Grandfather many years ago. I've handled numerous single shot shotguns, but have always believed the hammerless, takedown, Savage 220 to be the finest of them all.
I have a life long interest in firearms, I reload some rifle & revolver cartridges, enjoy upland hunting as much as my 70 year old legs allow me to. We're now in my favorite season of the year and hope winter doesn't steal too much from the end of the season.
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Savage 219 Single Shot Rifles / Re: Cast Bullet Accuracy Potential, 219 Savage
« Last post by Garnett on September 09, 2023, 05:04:48 PM »
I agree with your statement.  I have a double rifle barrel set on a Fox Sterlingworth in .45-70.  It will shoot a 2" group at 75 yards, which in the woods of central Alabama is adequate for deer.   The trigger pull on the 219/220 can be greatly improved as I have had done to a M219 in .22 Hornet that I custom built for my daughter.  I can't do the work, but my gunsmith did and said it is a simple job.  Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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Savage 219 Single Shot Rifles / Re: Cast Bullet Accuracy Potential, 219 Savage
« Last post by Exchipy on September 09, 2023, 03:59:03 PM »
As slick handling and elegant of design as they are, there’s a lot about the Savage 219 which works against it performing particularly well for precision shooting at 100 yards, its light weight, butt stock dimensions, and HEAVY trigger pull being chief among them.  Nevertheless, results can still be surprising, if one takes long enough time on each shot and employs good technique.  But, realistically, a group striking at the point of aim and measuring down near a couple inches is more than sufficient precision/accuracy for its intended use.
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Savage 219 Single Shot Rifles / Re: 219 in 22 Hornet
« Last post by TXTROUT66 on September 03, 2023, 02:37:13 PM »
Many find that a 40 to 45 grain bullet and a moderate load work best. Lots of options on powders. Both of mine do well with PMC ammo. I may convert on of them to an improved Hornet. But like anything, you can chase things!

Have fun in the chase!
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Savage 219 Single Shot Rifles / Re: 219 in 22 Hornet
« Last post by Garnett on September 02, 2023, 04:07:49 PM »
Please keep us posted.
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