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Savage 219 Single Shot Rifles / Re: Cast Bullet Accuracy Potential, 219 Savage
« Last post by Garnett on September 02, 2023, 04:05:46 PM »
The early lever action repeaters with tube magazines needed round or flat nose bullets so the recoil would not cause a cartridge in the magazine to fire.  I have always felt that the Model 219 Savages in .30-30, .32-20, and .25-20 would be more accurate with modern pointed bullets.  It would be interesting to see results of 3 shots of each of the two bullet styles at 100 yards.
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Savage 219 Single Shot Rifles / Re: Cast Bullet Accuracy Potential, 219 Savage
« Last post by TXTROUT66 on September 02, 2023, 03:26:37 PM »
That is nice. I hope to try some pointy handloads in both of mine soon.
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Savage 219 Single Shot Rifles / Re: Cast Bullet Accuracy Potential, 219 Savage
« Last post by MikeLeong on September 02, 2023, 09:57:52 AM »
That is a great result. You mentioned your powder was SR 4759, but that powder has not been made for years? We cannot get in Canada unless one pays crazy prices for the odd old can that shows up on auction sites.

I can get one inch groups with Leverevolution and Hornady FTX bullets. My friend casts bullets, so I will try some loads if he has some 30 cal stuff I can borrow to try with Leverevolution to see if I can get something close to what you did!

Mike
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Since I cannot enlarge the picture, I would say 3 and 2.  Thanks for sharing!
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Five shots at fifty yards.  The Range Officer and I couldn’t determine whether the results were 3 and 2 or 4 and 1.  Which do you think it is ?

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Savage 219 Single Shot Rifles / Re: Cast Bullet Accuracy Potential, 219 Savage
« Last post by Exchipy on September 01, 2023, 11:26:35 PM »
Just keeps getting better:

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Hi! My Name is... / Re: Howdy
« Last post by Garnett on September 01, 2023, 04:53:47 PM »
Thaine,  Welcome to this forum!  Best wishes, Garnett
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Hi! My Name is... / Howdy
« Last post by Thaine on September 01, 2023, 02:30:35 PM »
Let me introduce myself, I am a 76 year old double dipping retiree (22 years USN and 27 years DOD civilian with the AF).  My collecting interests have changed over the years.  I started at 10 with three Stevens Boy's rifles, then to Winchester Levers, on to exploring various calibers as a reloader and then to pre-WW II sporting rifles.  Along the way I have managed to acquire a modest collection of Savage 219's in 30-30, 22 Hornet, 218 Bee (rechambered Hornet), 219 Zipper Improved (another rechambered Hornet), extra 30-30 barrel and managed to snag a 25-20 on an online auction.
https://www.proxibid.com/Savage-Model-219-25-20-Rifle/lotInformation/78881369&rfpb=0#Top
I found this website while looking for information on the number of 25-20s produced.  Nothing to sell, just lots to learn and perhaps some knowledge from 66 years as a "gun nut" to share.
Thaine
(my real name and the one I use on all forums)
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Savage 219 Single Shot Rifles / Re: 219 in 22 Hornet
« Last post by MikeLeong on September 01, 2023, 11:00:17 AM »
Reasonable (my idea) is $650 Canadian, with a Bushnell scope on it, and it looks to be in good shape. A 30-30 tends to go for around $400 to $500 up here and I know 22 Hornet is harder to find so it commands a bit more money. The only other 22 Hornets I have seen here were in poor shape and the sellers still wanted $500 or more for them. One was so bad somebody screwed the forearm onto the barrel (with a hole drilled through a nickel as a washer!) so that the gun would not come apart when you opened it to put another round in. I wanted to see the numbers on the barrel and receiver to prove it was all original and the seller got mad when I told him these guns do come apart. He insisted the gun was built that way.

I am waffling on buying this caliber, because it is a pain to reload from what I hear. My friend is far more knowledgeable about 22 Hornet, and he noted you can play around with different powders and bullets for a long time, to find that magic combination that gives you a good grouping. He did eventually find a load that worked in his gun (Ruger #1 I think) that shot thumbnail groups at a hundred yards, which is what you want in varmit gun I guess. That is why I am wondering if there is a decent factory load that people have found works in the Savage 219's. The other issue is even finding a selection of factory ammo for this caliber. I hear they can be a lot of fun to shoot, and I do enjoy collecting these guns though, so maybe I will buy it regardless.



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Savage 219 Single Shot Rifles / Re: 219 in 22 Hornet
« Last post by Garnett on August 31, 2023, 07:40:29 PM »
Mike, If you do reload for it, please share with us the difference between your loads and factory.  Also, will you share with us what the "reasonable" price is, and details on the actual rifle?  Best wishes, Garnett
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