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MikeLeong

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219 in 30-30
« on: September 22, 2020, 03:21:39 PM »
Garnett

I  bought a 219 this past winter, and when I sent in the photos you mentioned it was later run model. I took it to the range to test it out for accuracy as you said you were looking to perhaps do a write up on that subject. It shoots one inch groups at 100 yards using factory CORE LOKT ammunition, and it did the same with my handload using Hornday FTX bullets and Leverevolution powder. Another handload using old round nose bullets was all over the paper. I tried to send you an email but your hotmail address from this spring, got sent back to me?

I am having problems with the gun not firing, on every fourth of fifth bullet, so any thoughts you have on fixing that are much appreciated.

There is also a guy up here on the Canadian Gun Nutz site that is selling a 219 with four barrels (30-30, 22Hornet, 12 and 20 gauge)  for $1050. I thnk that is a good price, what would that kind of set go for down there?

Mike

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Re: 219 in 30-30
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2020, 04:37:47 PM »
Mike, my email is:    garnettstancil@hotmail.com       It has not changed in years.  Please try to resend photos. 

What I am about to say is my personal opinion as I am not a gunsmith/machinist.  I would guess the intermittent firing is because of a broken firing pin.  One shot, the broken tip lines up properly and hits the primer, next shot the tip is misaligned and does not hit the primer.  Please look at this "Striker" on Ebay No. 224158040777.  If a broke pin is the problem, this is the part you need.  However, because this striker is part of an assembly, your problem could be caused by one or more of those parts not functioning properly with the rest of the assembly.  Your rifle is what I call a "Second Model Utica".


I'll do some research and get back with you on the multi barrel set. How many forearms come with the set?  Do the assembly numbers on all barrels match the frame?  Has any of it been reblued?  What is the actual model number of the 219 frame, or is it a 220 frame?  It it is a 219 frame it could be an original "Utility" set that someone has added a rifle and shotgun barrel.  There are so many variables.  Another Canadian friend looked at a similar set a few months ago and passed on it.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2020, 04:54:26 PM by Garnett »

MikeLeong

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Re: 219 in 30-30
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2020, 08:25:54 PM »
Thanks for all this information. When the gun misfires it does still hit the primer, just not hard enough to set it off. I can try ordering a firing pin, and then if that does not help I do have a good gunsmith I can try out.

I will get some information on that gun with the multiple barrels, based on all the information you provided!

Mike

Garnett

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Re: 219 in 30-30
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2020, 11:43:05 PM »
Mike, Since the tip of the pin is hitting the primer, maybe the spring is weak.  Normally there are "Striker Assemblies" for sale on Ebay.  Tonight there are none.  I cannot post a picture of mine because late last week Microsoft upgraded their system and now my picture processing program won't work. :'(  I will try to scan a picture from my book tomorrow and post it so you can see the entire assembly. 

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Re: 219 in 30-30
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2020, 01:26:02 PM »
Mike, I am going to try to attach page 57 of my book that will show 4 views of a Striker Assembly to give you an idea of what may be needed.  I have another thought on the pin itself.  It could just be slightly bent from center line just enough that it is hitting the primer off center.  As I mentioned earlier, I am not a gunsmith/machinist.  I hope these pictures will help some.

« Last Edit: September 23, 2020, 01:28:21 PM by Garnett »

MikeLeong

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Re: 219 in 30-30
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2020, 06:47:36 PM »
I will buy your book. I was planning on doing that anyway just to learn more about this amazing rifle. Do you make a bit more money if I buy it from you, or should I go through ebay?

I will also resend the photos of my results at the range. I know we emailed each other this spring, not sure why this one got sent back.

Thanks again for all your help,
Mike

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Re: 219 in 30-30
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2020, 07:14:43 PM »
Mike, I have sent you a private email. 

droptine

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Re: 219 in 30-30
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2020, 06:54:23 PM »
when i purchased my 25-20, i had the same problem of not firing all the time. firing pin was marking the primer, but  not hard enough. couple of drops of sea foam deep creep on the firing pin channel works great now. guess it was just a little gummed up

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Re: 219 in 30-30
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2020, 07:30:58 PM »
I had never thought of that.  Thanks for your input.  You are also very lucky to have a .25-20!